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Restoring a 1965 Honda Cub - 65 cc - I got keys and now need parts

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  • 17 Feb 2020 1:45 PM
    Message # 8752395

    I'm not sure what the protocol is.  If I should start a new thread or just continue the last one?  

    I got keys.  I just ordered them from a lock smith and they worked.  

    I'm planning on working on the bike in the spring/summer but in the mean time I'd like to start sourcing some parts.  I really have no clue where to go besides ebay.  I'm not sure if the community has local sources that they can point me to. 

    The things I need


    - wheels 

     I'm hoping you guys have some good recommendations for this.  As I'm not sure where I would find a proper oem version of the wheels/spokes.   


    - tires  

      Any preferred company to deal with? 


    - air filter

      I assume ebay would be the source for this.


    - carb rebuild kit.

      I'm not sure I need it, but I'd like to replace old gaskets. I assume ebay would be the place to go as well.


    - a good shop for plastic welding. The cowel has a nice crack in it which I would like to get welded.  


    - Battery - I assume this is the replacement battery.  

    https://www.yuasabatteries.com/battery/6n2-2a/?vehicle_type=motorcycle&vehicle_make=honda&vehicle_year=1965&vehicle_model=c-ca105t-trail&vehicle_id=28994

    I can just call up dealers and see if I can order it.  Unless anyone else has any recommendations?  


    Cheers!

  • 17 Feb 2020 8:22 PM
    Reply # 8753097 on 8752395

    I used to deal with a guy named Paul Enz from Florida ,penz@cfl.rr.com  & e-mail him with   a list of parts you need.Last ad I saw from him was in the VJMC magazine from 2017.

  • 17 Feb 2020 9:12 PM
    Reply # 8753162 on 8752395

    I can give you a few tips on buying Cub stuff. Not surprised you need rims, and good luck finding a nice used set. A lot of guys buy rims and spokes from Thailand. I've heard the rims are made fairly well and are certainly an inexpensive option. Ebay is your friend here or Alibaba.com if you want to give that a try. For tires and battery I use Fortnine.ca. The Dunlop Gold Seal was available in the 2.50x17 and is a great tire, but almost impossible to find and not cheap. Fortnine sells Mitas in the size you need and have a nice vintage look to them. The air filter, once again Ebay. Siriusconic.com in Cambridge sell carb kits and look at their tire section while there as well. Do everything you can to save the carb jets and other parts. I have no faith in installing most aftermarket carb kits. Buy them for the gaskets only. The very early Keihin carbs used Japanese industrial Standard thread pitch which differed from some metric thread pitches, so the aftermarket jets most likely won't install without damage. 

  • 18 Feb 2020 9:28 AM
    Reply # 8754071 on 8752395
    Tim

    I've been working on a 1966 CB77 and can  provide a few tips.

    Parts - Try a Honda dealer first. There is still a remarkable amount of stuff still in their catalogue. CMS keeps an online catalogue of parts for many models. You can use their site as a parts book and/or buy parts from them. They aren't cheap but many NOS and aftermarket parts are available.

    Battery - Have a look at Motobat. The maintenance free models are definitely worth it and are stocked by dealers. It will last longer partly because the technology is better but it won't die because you forgot to maintain it.

    Wheels etc. - Those on the Honda 305 forum have generally found the Asian aftermarket parts to be good. I purchased one off Ebay for my 305 and it seems as good as the original.

    It would be good to look around the Web for useful fora. The Honda 305 forum has been more helpful than I can describe. Wolfe Worx has been a great source of services for me although it is a bit of a hike from Mississauga. There should be something closer to you.

    All the best in your endeavour.


    Last modified: 18 Feb 2020 9:44 AM | Tim
  • 18 Feb 2020 1:48 PM
    Reply # 8754704 on 8753097
    Dave wrote:

    I used to deal with a guy named Paul Enz from Florida ,penz@cfl.rr.com  & e-mail him with   a list of parts you need.Last ad I saw from him was in the VJMC magazine from 2017.

    Thank you. I'll keep this in mind if I run into any hard issues.  
  • 18 Feb 2020 2:08 PM
    Reply # 8754743 on 8753162
    Gord wrote:

    I can give you a few tips on buying Cub stuff. Not surprised you need rims, and good luck finding a nice used set. A lot of guys buy rims and spokes from Thailand. I've heard the rims are made fairly well and are certainly an inexpensive option. Ebay is your friend here or Alibaba.com if you want to give that a try. For tires and battery I use Fortnine.ca. The Dunlop Gold Seal was available in the 2.50x17 and is a great tire, but almost impossible to find and not cheap. Fortnine sells Mitas in the size you need and have a nice vintage look to them. The air filter, once again Ebay. Siriusconic.com in Cambridge sell carb kits and look at their tire section while there as well. Do everything you can to save the carb jets and other parts. I have no faith in installing most aftermarket carb kits. Buy them for the gaskets only. The very early Keihin carbs used Japanese industrial Standard thread pitch which differed from some metric thread pitches, so the aftermarket jets most likely won't install without damage. 


    Yeah, I'm probably going to be buying some asian made rims.  I'm just not sure if they will match the OEM rims.  I'm not sure if stuff like the number of spokes and the such are the same.  I guess I need to do some research.

    Thank you for the info on tires.  It looks like fortnine is out of stock.  I think the tires the manual says are 2.25x17.  Either way I don't think that's much of a difference in size. I'll give them a call.

    Ohhhh.. I'll definitely check out siriusconic.  Yeah I don't want to replace anything besides o-rings and gaskets.  The bike supposedly only has 5 miles on it and I think all of the metal parts inside of the carb should be fine.  But I imagine gaskets and seals will degrade after 50 years.  

    I didn't know about the thread pitch.  Good to know.  


  • 18 Feb 2020 3:21 PM
    Reply # 8754943 on 8754071
    Tim wrote:

    I've been working on a 1966 CB77 and can  provide a few tips.

    Parts - Try a Honda dealer first. There is still a remarkable amount of stuff still in their catalogue. CMS keeps an online catalogue of parts for many models. You can use their site as a parts book and/or buy parts from them. They aren't cheap but many NOS and aftermarket parts are available.

    Battery - Have a look at Motobat. The maintenance free models are definitely worth it and are stocked by dealers. It will last longer partly because the technology is better but it won't die because you forgot to maintain it.

    Wheels etc. - Those on the Honda 305 forum have generally found the Asian aftermarket parts to be good. I purchased one off Ebay for my 305 and it seems as good as the original.

    It would be good to look around the Web for useful fora. The Honda 305 forum has been more helpful than I can describe. Wolfe Worx has been a great source of services for me although it is a bit of a hike from Mississauga. There should be something closer to you.

    All the best in your endeavour.



    Thank you.

    I did find that CMS website.  It's a pretty good resource.  For the cub it's a bit confusing because it looks like it's a lot of aftermarket parts.  Which makes me wonder if it's just imported stuff and if I'd be paying extra to import it from Europe?  I'm assuming Europe because all of the prices are in Euro. 

    As for Motobat, that sounds interesting.  But sadly on their website the maintenance free category seems to be empty.  But also they don't have many 6 volt options in other categories.  :/ 

    Supposedly vietnam is a huge hub for Cub parts as the country has an obscene amount of them.  So ordering rims/spokes from ebay might be the best option. 


  • 23 Feb 2020 6:59 AM
    Reply # 8764614 on 8752395

    You might want to checkout the Facebook group called Honda OHC Horizontal Singles. I found it to be a good resource.

  • 27 Feb 2020 11:47 AM
    Reply # 8776474 on 8764614
    Paul wrote:

    You might want to checkout the Facebook group called Honda OHC Horizontal Singles. I found it to be a good resource.

    Thank you Paul, I'll go take a look.
  • 29 Feb 2020 10:29 AM
    Reply # 8783951 on 8752395

    Derek,

    Welcome to the wonderful world of Honda Cubs. I have restored a number of Cubs from the C100 to the CM91. Regarding the spoke/rim sets from Thailand, they are a decent quality with the only negative being that the manufacturer stamps their info into the side of the rim before chroming. The chrome is good and the sets lace up fine to the stock hubs (I always polish up or paint hubs while everything is apart). I get most of my Thailand supplies from Vintage Avenue (store on ebay). Be aware that some of the C65 parts listed don't always fit the earlier model which we got in Canada. Shipping is pricey, so best to make up a full order to save on shipping cost.

    Good luck with your restoration. Photo attached of the C65 I restored a few years ago.

    John Bakker

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